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AbstractPhil 
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The rotary test cases are in and a solution was found.
https://huggingface.co/blog/AbstractPowered/rotary-addressed-selection

I've coined the term Rotary Addressed Selection, at least until I discover if someone else has made it first.

This rotary can handle an absurd length of context window, though the technical documentation is quite complex. Targeting context window after 1 million was how the addressing corruption was solved.

Yes this is all compacted into a 9m param model. A universe in an atom.

The rotary system involves including a full address for every 4096 context window lookup state. This allows the model to differentiate between a multitude of modular model extensions.

How does that work? Well if there's nothing at the address, then there's no return. Addresses are essentially selectors promoting the cooperative state and it does have some limitations, but the full global rotary supports DIRECT dynamic extension to the model at runtime.

Need only a simple classifier? The selectors know which experts classify and which state they exist in.

Need a full VLM? Load up the experts.

You get the idea.

Query with the address, get the correct addressing. That's how it works. The model learns to handle everything internally, so there is no need for a large structural addressing screening beforehand.

With this development, full mixture of experts with uncertain (absurdly long) context depth can have a consistent context window guarantee. There is bound to be some direct breakdowns and numerics that can't simply reach beyond certain points likely based on hardware or rounding differences, but the system essentially allows full MOE where experts are selectable and the selected experts are a guaranteed addressing.

The upcoming experimentation will fill in the gaps for the test cases, confirm or refute clauses that are established on the rotary, and then training a functional Alhena at the size of the mini-beatrix scale with some tweaks for the changes.

I'm going to have the claudes continue generating the image chain of thought system while I sleep.

There are still more steps between here and training the next model, one of which involves image thought being in the experiment line. This will include a form of VIT, a form of diffusion, and a form of traditional classification experts.

I'm thinking around 20,000 should be enough to train a fair-sized qwen for the task. It's only about 4,000 so far, so it'll take a few more weeks of off and on. I'll try a finetune here or there to see if it gets better, then run a couple datasets to compare the results

More than likely the better qwen will need a task trained VLM lora, which I've never built a combination vision + text lora so that'll be interesting. There's probably a series of losses that make sense more than just using the clip cross-contrast so I'll need to research a bit.

Extraction with one of the qwen 8b or 9b models should provide a good enough result to train another model, but it's still just going to be qwen results tuned to the shape unless I run a few other processes. Qwen 3.8 should be strong enough, hopefully, but I'm not even sure if 3.8 has a VLM yet so I'll have all that worked out sooner than later.

Qwen 3.5 9b's VLM should be enough to generate a full dataset system for the rows. Sonnet is going to take weeks at this rate, so I'm testing some solidifications.

A text only lora KIND OF worked, but it wasn't strong enough. Also ~900 image rows is clearly not enough. I'm going to need a full synthetic symbolic engine if I want something of legitimate reuse.

It SHOULD be powerful enough to workhorse a full pipeline structure when it's ready. Qwen 3.5 9b is pretty powerful.

The model training both PEFT lora or full finetune fit snugly on a colab RTX 6000 pro, so it'll train pretty quick. I ran rotary for 8 days on them, this little prototype should be done in a day or two with any luck. Then a large scale extraction, then we can start teaching some experts some legitimate capacity.

When prepared it goes in the list of prepared utilities released by the AbstractPowered systems. I've been putting off compounding them, but I plan to finish the compounded list and release the handful of valid utilities to the AbstractPowered as release models, and likely next week or the week after I'll prep the AbstractPowered research line sector.

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